Got myself a copy of Ralph Maud's "counter-biography", Charles Olson at the Harbor (critical of Tom Clark's previous bio). Looking forward to this. Heard about it in Kenneth Warren's magazine, House Organ.
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Continuing with G. Hill's essays. Two of them, toward the end, basically take-downs of TS Eliot. Eliot gets no respect from nobody, nowhow, these days. Sometimes the animus on Hill's part seems a little heavy-handed. He puts too much weight, seems to me, on offhand comments Eliot made to a reporter at some verse theater festival in Scotland (part of his evidence for asserting steep decline in quality of Eliot's later poetry).
But right now, Hill's powerful attention & intellect carries a lot of weight with me... just seems pretty obviously to be shaping his British canon - & shoving Eliot down a notch. Maybe he's right. Pointed toward a book by Eliot contemporary Charles Williams (English poetic mind, c. 1932), which sounds pretty good, based on the bits quoted.
Showing posts with label Kenneth Warren. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Kenneth Warren. Show all posts
9.20.2007
House Organ #60, edited by Kenneth Warren, arrived today. I feel lucky to be getting this in my mailbox. The funny thing is how this little folded-over xerox-style magazine, full of quiet poets you've never heard of, mostly, is the best thing going in hopped-up, expensive America. Tom Epstein put me on to it, several years ago.
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House Organ,
Kenneth Warren
7.13.2007
Yesterday, by surface mail in the actual world, I received a note from Kenneth Warren (editor of House Organ) about In RI (I'd sent him a copy). Kenneth was so enthusiastic that I had to go back & read the poem again myself. Surprised to find how topical/political it is. A blast against fundamentalism.
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church-state,
In RI2,
Kenneth Warren
2.24.2005
Reading Marguerite Yourcenar's The Abyss. By centering the story on Zeno, an alchemist with a single-minded scientific passion to know & to free himself, who delves into the hermetic secrets of the 4 elements within nature & his own body, Yourcenar gives very rich & vivid shape to a distant time (1500s Europe). The novel somewhat reflects Zeno's own fascination with the human microcosm, becoming a literary microcosm.
Funny how yesterday I was sidelining "hermeticism", since this novel reminded me (this morning) how important the alchemical-hermetic aspect is to the U.S. long poem. Both Paterson ("the giant, Paterson"; "a man = a city") & Maximus are structured largely as literary-alchemical transmutations (the epic questor becomes "Everyman", the image/bearer/creator of a cosmos). I've noticed before an odd thing about alchemical notions (the 4 elements, the transmutation of metals, etc.): once you take note of them in literature, they seem to crop up everywhere. I guess you may say that writing itself can be read alchemically.
Kenneth Warren, in his little mag House Organ, has published a serialized study of Charles Olson & Maximus ("The Emperor's New Code") which is steeped in alchemical-theosophical lore.
(However, let's be clear: alchemy, hermeticism, literary obscurity, trobar clus... these are not all the same thing. In other words I would still disagree with Ron S. when he suggests that a kind of secret writing for adepts represents authorial respect for the intelligence of the reader, or that trobar clus-like poetry is or will be the engine of literary change & advance. Yourcenar (or Nabokov, for another example, or Shakespeare) is a great writer because, among other things, she is master of a clear, precise, and capacious style - capable of absorbing and reflecting realities on many different levels.)
Funny how yesterday I was sidelining "hermeticism", since this novel reminded me (this morning) how important the alchemical-hermetic aspect is to the U.S. long poem. Both Paterson ("the giant, Paterson"; "a man = a city") & Maximus are structured largely as literary-alchemical transmutations (the epic questor becomes "Everyman", the image/bearer/creator of a cosmos). I've noticed before an odd thing about alchemical notions (the 4 elements, the transmutation of metals, etc.): once you take note of them in literature, they seem to crop up everywhere. I guess you may say that writing itself can be read alchemically.
Kenneth Warren, in his little mag House Organ, has published a serialized study of Charles Olson & Maximus ("The Emperor's New Code") which is steeped in alchemical-theosophical lore.
(However, let's be clear: alchemy, hermeticism, literary obscurity, trobar clus... these are not all the same thing. In other words I would still disagree with Ron S. when he suggests that a kind of secret writing for adepts represents authorial respect for the intelligence of the reader, or that trobar clus-like poetry is or will be the engine of literary change & advance. Yourcenar (or Nabokov, for another example, or Shakespeare) is a great writer because, among other things, she is master of a clear, precise, and capacious style - capable of absorbing and reflecting realities on many different levels.)
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alchemy,
Charles Olson,
hermetic,
Kenneth Warren,
Yourcenar
9.22.2004
Let's gab some more about long poems, OK Hen? OK.
Both Warren & Dale Smith, in that issue of House Organ, point toward the messianic/utopian. Smith, in asserting a bond between the poet's line & the actual (natural/cultural) locus poeticus or environment. Warren, more specifically, seems to judge the "messianic" as a sort of aggressive ethos-formation or ideology, formed in conscious or unconscious conflict with deeper psychosocial forces (patriarchy, anti-semitism, anti-Catholicism). (I think Warren displays sort of a Catholic-Jungian syncretism, in which apocalypse, messianism, utopianism are "outer" phenomena, which fall short of a more complete & substantial inner integration or paradisal state. But I'm sort of guessing here, having given his essays only a cursory & intermittent reading.)
The long poem, with its collective & holistic ambitions, applies itself especially to utopian aims.
Seems to me that in order to approach such aims, any such work would have to have:
1. some kind of cosmological worldview, social-scientific philosophy, or religious base.
2. some kind of holistic or encyclopedic representation of social life.
(Northrop Frye & others have written a lot about such generic requirements.)
How do the American examples stack up in this regard? More in a minute.
Both Warren & Dale Smith, in that issue of House Organ, point toward the messianic/utopian. Smith, in asserting a bond between the poet's line & the actual (natural/cultural) locus poeticus or environment. Warren, more specifically, seems to judge the "messianic" as a sort of aggressive ethos-formation or ideology, formed in conscious or unconscious conflict with deeper psychosocial forces (patriarchy, anti-semitism, anti-Catholicism). (I think Warren displays sort of a Catholic-Jungian syncretism, in which apocalypse, messianism, utopianism are "outer" phenomena, which fall short of a more complete & substantial inner integration or paradisal state. But I'm sort of guessing here, having given his essays only a cursory & intermittent reading.)
The long poem, with its collective & holistic ambitions, applies itself especially to utopian aims.
Seems to me that in order to approach such aims, any such work would have to have:
1. some kind of cosmological worldview, social-scientific philosophy, or religious base.
2. some kind of holistic or encyclopedic representation of social life.
(Northrop Frye & others have written a lot about such generic requirements.)
How do the American examples stack up in this regard? More in a minute.
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cosmology,
Dale Smith,
House Organ,
Kenneth Warren,
long poems2,
psyche,
utopia
The latest issue of House Organ arrived yesterday, including another chapter in editor Kenneth Warren's ongoing Olson research, "The Emperor's New Code", and a little defense of the vitality of "the line" (& rebuttal of Ron Silliman) by Dale Smith. Also some nice late-summer poems.
Warren's effort is unusual. He has a mercurial, intuitive capacity for interpretation, which is a perfect lens for Olson's psychological-historical-occult mentality; he brings a vast store of Jungian-astrological-mythological-sociological knowledge to bear, combined with a critical sense (which is not about "promoting" Olson, but opening up both the dark & light aspects of his epic ambition). This issue's chapter is a fascinating look at the Olson/Ferrini constellation, in which the "ferrous"-iron Ferrini stands for "Red Knight"/Mediterranean/Jewish/feminine qualities, which Aryan/masculinist/German-idealist Olson must challenge. (Here's a Warren review of Ferrini, drawn from another House Organ issue, which gives a sense of what he's getting at.)
p.s. Kent Johnson appended a good comment to this post, please click the box below(even if it shows "0 comments!").
Warren's effort is unusual. He has a mercurial, intuitive capacity for interpretation, which is a perfect lens for Olson's psychological-historical-occult mentality; he brings a vast store of Jungian-astrological-mythological-sociological knowledge to bear, combined with a critical sense (which is not about "promoting" Olson, but opening up both the dark & light aspects of his epic ambition). This issue's chapter is a fascinating look at the Olson/Ferrini constellation, in which the "ferrous"-iron Ferrini stands for "Red Knight"/Mediterranean/Jewish/feminine qualities, which Aryan/masculinist/German-idealist Olson must challenge. (Here's a Warren review of Ferrini, drawn from another House Organ issue, which gives a sense of what he's getting at.)
p.s. Kent Johnson appended a good comment to this post, please click the box below(even if it shows "0 comments!").
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Charles Olson,
Ferrini,
House Organ,
Kenneth Warren,
Kent Johnson2
1.16.2004
Something from Grassblade Light (vol. 2 of Forth of July). I may have posted this before. I like to think of my longish poem as stylistically somewhere between Hartford & Gloucester.
(My life changed after 2000 - watershed. Kenneth Warren's essay one of those goads to put it all back together.)
(My life changed after 2000 - watershed. Kenneth Warren's essay one of those goads to put it all back together.)
4
Orpheus in love goes undeground,
a demonstration - Blackstone's Law: what's lost is lost.
Blackstone dives into his pile of leaves, his palimpsest,
to prove a mother-of-pearly paradox - what's lost is found.
They baptized you outside the colorful cathedral doors,
a point of light, a peephole in a dreamy spectrum.
Something other than angel, animal - a hum,
a hem in someone's seemly seamless smock - hers,
yours, ours. Henry remembers you, remembers then,
via the impress of your lack of shade - he floats
in whiskered haze, within the darkness that you made,
a Noah, sinking in a sea of bird-calls, in the wine-
dusky seas of Evening Man, winely drunk...
- at the pinnacle of that majestic oak, bluejay
or mockingbird salutes a descending starling, sideways
(choral grackles measuring the distance Henry sank) -
I shall not drink it with you again til Kingdom Come,
he said to them. Blackstone footing out the Roman foot
from here to there: only a cupful, only a child's foot,
only the spectrum of a children's toy, he told them,
spinning and coming round again. A rainbow.
Noah, Bluejay, Blackstone, Henry -
drinking together from the horn of plenty
of memories... old autumnal children now,
old men. And Orpheus goes down into the chaos
shod with mercury, to reap the enormous harvest;
Eurydice, still silent, paces toward the past -
ghost of his future, empress of all his shadows.
10.26.98
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Charles Olson,
Grassblade Light,
Kenneth Warren,
Stevens2
Kenneth Warren's House Organ, issue #45, arrived yesterday. Includes another installment of "The Emperor's New Code", his serial meditation on Charles Olson.
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Charles Olson,
House Organ,
Kenneth Warren
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